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they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of the week or beginning of next week. if you are mitt romney, this is -- the pew poll yesterday was huge news because a lot of what happens here at the end and we are 28 days away, is momentum based. for folks who haven't made their mind up yet you want to look like you're the guy with the momentum. coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the e
a trip down memory lane and look back over the last year or so when it comes to polls. romney has lost the lead in the polls five times to fellow republicans. remember those primaries? first it was michele bachmann after iowa. and by the way, a lot of these poll swings came after debates. a year ago it was herman cain and then newt gingrich out on top. and remember rick perry before his infamous "oops" comment, again, during a debate? and then there's romney's longest challenger, rick santorum, who sat at the top of the pole position for quite some time. and don't forget, there were 22 of these debates. so plenty of room for swing time. so romney's been here before. this is not his first time at the rodeo, that behind-to-ahead rodeo that we see in the polls quite often. cnn's political editor, paul steinhauser, is live for us in danville, kentucky, where the vice presidential debate is just one day away, getting under way tomorrow night. so latest polls, obviously this is a good time for the romney camp. it's nice to see a big bounce after the debate. but -- and that's a big but -- pol
. >> i hear the polls have romney up by 67 points today. i think hysteria is a good word and i like andrew sullivan as much as the next conservative -- not conservative pundit he claims to be. i do think -- you know, in politics you can never extrap plate from a given point. everything is trend lines one way or the other direction. that was a bad night for the president and anybody who wants him to win. but it's not the last point we're going to see on the graph here. we're going to see, you know, two more debates, we're going to see more speeches, may see oscar the grouch get involved, who knows. but so, you know, plenty of time. if mitt romney, you know, could survive three bad weeks after the 47% video, the president can survive a bad debate performance and after the next one, whatever happened in the first time, won't matter. he may not -- he may do worse, may do better but won't matter anymore after the next two debates. >> also, to your point about graphs there is a an interesting graph in t"the new york times" when incumbents win and when they don't and which way employment i
. >> reporter: good morning, frank. with polls show mitt romney with momentum republicans are certainly hoping that congressman paul ryan will keep it going while democrats are counting on vice president joe biden to reverse the flow and to stop the loss of support among voters. >>> reporter: congressman paul ryan arrived in kentucky ahead of his first nationally televised debate. the number 2 man on the gop ticket told reporters earlier in florida voters will see a clear choice when he faces off against vice president joe biden. >> this is my first time. what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. they are just offering more of the same. >> reporter: ryan will face an opponent who occasionally causes controversy with freewheeling statements but republicans also know vice president biden is a seasoned debater. >> nothing like standing up before 70 million people. >> reporter: usually vice- presidential debates don't greatly impact elections but after president obama's lackluster performance at his first debate with mitt romney, many believe democrats are desperate for vice
to have won. ryan's job is to keep romney's momentum rolling. today's national gallup poll of likely voters shows governor romney with a slender lead of one point over the president. of course, that's within the margin of error so it's essentially a tie. tonight's debate isality centre college in danville, kentucky. nancy cordes and jan crawford are there. first we'll go to nancy, covering the vice president's campaign. nancy. >> reporter: scorkt the vice president arrived here in kentucky today after self days of intense preparation in his home state of delaware and several people there with him told us the president's weak performance in his own debate didn't so much change the strategy as raise the stakes and thails the vice president is very well aware he needs to have a better night than the president did. you recall when the president was preparing for his own debate, he called it a drag. well, the campaign is making it very clear that the vice president enjoyed his preparation, enjoys debating. they even released the vice president and what we learned one of six full-scale 90
-47. after yesterday's new poll showing romney up by four, 49-45. so where does the race stand in charles krauthammer. >> romney got nothing out of tampa. obama got bumped maybe three to five out of charlotte. what happened when that debate is romney got it all back. in 90 minutes in one night. maybe even more. right now the race is tied with romney still, i think, having some of the momentum from the debate. i think the rest of this story will be determined by the remaining debates. >> dana: debate fall-out from last week taking place. i like the smile that you just had. because i've -- the trajectory and the headline have been weighing down the obama team. we're going to get to the small ball thing in a minute. that's the fun part of the segment. poll wise for you, what stood out for you of the ones that have come out in the last couple of days? >> andrea: women. pew research center has them dead even at vii-vii. this was a demographic we have been told month after month that obama has had assailing can't lead -- significant lead with, he spent a lot of time and energy, he and the surro
and lead in the national and battleground state polls, romney courted moderate swing voters with the new jersey popular governor chris christie at town hall style meeting at manufacturing plant. >> we need to get the government the hell out of the way and let you succeed. >> i'm glad he blurted it out. it was very helpful. >> the likely voters show romney ahead 46 to 45% within the margin of error. romney trailed by five points before last week's debate. he surgeed among white voters and men. on the economy, romney back on top by eight points. he peppered a penal to repeal obamacare with a shot at the president for trying to scare voters. >> we had healthcare in america before obamacare came along. the idea we don't have healthcare if we don't have obama care is wrong and fear mongering. >> romney pro-life since 2005 said yesterday. >> there is no legislation regarding abortion i'm familiar with. that would become part of my agenda. >> obama camp jumped over the governor saying women can't trust him. in delaware, ohio, romney clarified. >> i'm a pro-life candidate andly be a pro-life pre
for president obama, romney's closing the gap. the latest polls, reuters has them tied. gallup has romney up by two. pew has him up by four. and we were talking about the polls in the balgtd ground states. it also now looks like according to other polls that pennsylvania and michigan may no longer be safe bets for the president. lynn. >> all right, thanks. last night on the rachel maddow show, nate silver talks about just how close the candidates are in the polls. >> the whole good month that obama had in september between the convention and the 47% tape, you're now seeing the race as close as it's been all year. i'm a little skeptical that it's actually tied based on the fact that obama still seems to on have a lead in the majority of swing state polls. but romney, who a week or two ago go looked like his campaign might be dead in the water, now is very, very close. maybe the debate was the october surprise, although it wouldn't be the first time that a challenger did really well in the first televised debate. >> every night rachel maddow takes on the biggest stories of the day. watch her a
congressman who wants to be known for his budget. >> i'm kind of a numbers guy. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice
gap. and president obama is flyi to florida after playing down romney's rise in the polls and his own poor debate performance. >> governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. -- >> how bad in its not the first time i've had a bad night. >> and overseas, holding out hope for the school girl now being called an icon of pakistan. we'll get a live report on malala's condition. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live at center college in danville, kentucky. ahead of an -- here we've got a great crowd here already. already for tonight's crucial debate, the vice presidential debate in a presidential campaign that has a razor-thin edge. joining me now is chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post and chuck todd, nbc's chief white house correspondent, political director and host of "the daily rundown." >> abe lincoln behind you. >> let me go to chris cillizza first. >> sure. >> back in washington, talk about the stake as head. what are the two burdens, if you will for the two candidates tonight? >> well, look, i mean i think it is relatively obvious that
there is a change in the polls. today yet another round of opinion polls showing governor romney pulling ahead of the president after that big debate. the governor now has a two-point lead in the latest gallup poll of likely voters. before the debate, the president was up by five points in the same poll. the obama camp down playing the numbers. one campaign spokesman says he expected this to happen. a live look now in ohio where governor romney is getting ready for a rally. 18 electoral votes up for grabs four weeks from tonight. as i reported, no republican has won the white house without first winning ohio. the governor started his day in another battle ground state, iowa. he responded to one of the president's latest attack lines over the governor's pledge to cut funding for pbs. home of big bird. >> these are tough times with real serious issues. so you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving big bird. i actually think we need to have a president who talks about saving the american people and saving good jobs and saving our future. >> shep: no
today points to a very tight race. according to "new york times"/cbs news poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. tight across the country. last month the president up one point in that state n virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. in wisconsin, the candidates also within the margin of error after the president lost the point from last month and mitt romney gained two. again this is all within the margin of error. a day after mitt romney, meanwhile, told the des moines register he would not pursue any abortion related legislation as president, mr. romney looked to clarify that position while campaigning in ohio. there he told reporters he would take action from the white house to reduce the number of abortions in the country. >> i think i said time and again i'm a pro-life candidate. i'll be a pro-life president. the actions i'll take immediately are to remove funding for planned parenthood. >> remove funding for planned parenthood. he said he would ban taxpayer funding for groups that perform abortions overseas. in an interview wi
-point reversal from a week ago. >>> and according to a "new york times"/cbs poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. last month the president was up one point in that state. in virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. he's now up 51%-46%. and in wisconsin, the candidates are within the margin of error after the president lost a point from last month and mitt romney gained two. in all three battleground states, voters by double digits believe the economy is getting better compared to the numbers back in july. >> and mark halperin, that may be the big takeaway from this poll. the race is getting much closer. nobody can predict what's going to happen. if you look at a big friend, thoug trend, you've got to look at a lot of americans in these swing states are looking at the economy saying things are getting better. >> it's clearly a huge factor and yet, obviously, the debate from denver is also a huge factor. i think, you know, we look a lot at the margin of error, and these numbers aren't shifting all that much. what's key is in a lot of the states the p
after a new nbc and wall street journal poll shows mitt romney posting gains in some key swing states including virginia, which is where he has taken a lead. andrew spencer has a preview. >> the showdown between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan takes place at centre college in danville, kentucky tonight. debate preparations for romney -- for ryan have included a mock debates all across the country and he spent a day and a half preparing in st. petersburg, florida. >> are you ready? >> i am. >> he described what he is up against in an interview with cnn. >> joe biden has been doing this a long time. he ran for president twice and he's been on a big stage many times before so that's new for me. i'm doing my homework and studying the issues. the problem he has is he has barack obama's record than he has to run on. >> joe biden offer to this last week in iowa. >> i'm looking forward to it. what i have been doing mostly is studying up on his position on the issues. governor romneyand governor romney. i don't want to say anything in the debates that's not completely accura
on the attacks that killed the u.s. ambassador. >> new polls shows mitt romney gaining ground in ohio while the obama campaign continues to battle over big bird. >>> a teenage girl in pakistan is shot for take on the taliban and okay simple breath test reveal whether you have a deadly disease. >>> we begin this morning with today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. . >>> this deserves a thorough investigation. we need to get to the bottom of every single allegation. >> we're learning dramatic new details about the september 11th assault that took the lives of ambassador chris stevens and the others. >> officials say there was no unrest outside of the compound prior to the attack. >> a state department official is expected to testify that his request for more troops and officers was turned down. >> governor romney wants to let wall street run wild but he wants to bring the hammer down on "sesame street." >> the producers of "sesame street" wants the obama campaign to stop using big bird in his campaigns. >> and a test in front of the supreme court, whether race should be considered in
new poll was released in just the past hour. that is the new gallup daily tracking poll. it shows president obama and mitt romney now tied 47%. romney erasing the 5-point lead the president had before the debates. right now president obama is about to make modern history. the president is in california where he'll unveil a national monument in horne of cesar chavez who led the farm worker monument. it's the first national monument since the 1700s to horne the latino. the latino vote is heavily skewed towards the president, but the issue is enthusiasm. we know this visit today in california with this national monument is a big one for the president. as for governor romney, he took direct aim at president obama's handling of foreign policy during his speech at the military institute in virginia. it's the tenth foreign policy speech of romney's campaign. >> when we look at the middle east today, with iran closer than ever to nuclear weapons capability, with the conflict in syria threatening to destabilize the region, and with violent extremists on the march, and with an american amba
michigan where romney has been trailing in the polls, with country, particularly in the southern part of ohio, where there is a much more conservative electorate where romney is looking for a big, big turnout. early voting has begun here in ohio. and all in these events they're encouraging people to go direct from their rallies and cast their ballots. this is a very critical state for the romney campaign. they're pleased with the way polls are going. they say they're going to win here. the political reality may be they have to win here if he hopes to end up in the white house. >> arthel: all right. carl cameron, all the music sounds good to me. thank you. it's indeed a critical state. eric? >> eric: president obama's day now, he's taking some time off from the campaign trail, spending a few days to prepare for the much anticipated secretary debate that will occur on long island new york this tuesday night. ed henry is with the president in williamsburg. hey, ed. >> great to see you. the president obviously did not pick virginia by accident to do this debate prep. last time it was neva
taken after the first presidential showdown. according to the "fox news poll" the romney ryan ticket got a boost jumping three points while the obama-biden ticket dropped three. the impact of the debate seems greater among independents with that voting bloc jumping five points in support of team romney while team obama dropped 7 points. president obama's opinion stayed the same after the debate while gove romney's rose four percentage points. that gives him a one point lead. still when you factor in the margin of error it is still too close to call. how did the president and governor romney did at the debate? both are weighing in. >> well, governor romney i had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it is not the first time i've had a bad night. >> well, obviously the president wasn't happy with the response to our debate last night. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> well i, you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. jon: joining us now is karl rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contr
. the wind right now seems to be at mitt romney's back, and it will be interesting to see where all the polls show the ohio race to be at a moment at which president obama is having the toughest headwinds that he's experienced the past three months and mitt romney finally has the wind at his back. it's interesting for us to see where ohio is in all of this because ohio, as you all know very well, a republican is not won the presidency without ohio. if mitt romney is unable to win it, it limits his chances to get to the 270 votes. >> do we have any more insight into the polls closing in ohio specifically? we keep saying the debate and performances. was there something substantive that perhaps we're seeing hit a note with particularly people in the midwest regarding this shift, if it is a solid shift? >> what we did notice in the pugh poll was there was a shift for mitt romney in the midwest. he made gains there, and that is pretty significant. as far as what ended up happening, i can't give you a good answer for that. i think the media's portrayal of the debate, everyone declaring that preside
, romney 49. if you can keep up up at this point, 49/46. the state polls caught your eye as well, michigan in particular. you look at those numbers. >> right. in the michigan poll it was a survey that had president obama holding onto a narrow three-point lead down from a 10--point lead earlier last month. that poll was kind of what we saw. i was talking to a republican looking at all the polling numbers and races who said, when the races were outside the margin of error, they're now in the margin of error, when president obama was up maybe 1, 2, 3 points they're tied or president obama up one. so the central thing is this race has tightened. mitt romney has seen all the polling numbers move in the direction. i don't think we know that in complete verdict where this race is. a lot of democrats are bracing for a close race a few months ago and they're bracing for one now. >> mark murray, thank you very much. you'll join us as at the half hour mark. let's bring in the "news nation" political panel. with us from afar is steve deyse a nationally syndicated radio talk show host. we allowed you t
quinnipiac poll, little boost from the debate there. let's come over to a huge state. romney probably needs to win florida. i can give you a scenario where he wins without florida, but it's a hard one. he had been down pretty big numbers. look at this. "the wall street journal" poll 48% to 47%, a statistical tie in the battleground state of florida. come up the coast, predebate there were polls in the state of virginia showing the president opening up a big lead outside the margin of error. new poll out today, romney 48%, president obama 47%. a statistical tie in battleground virginia. so there's colorado, nevada, florida, virginia. and one i'm just back wolf from the state of ohio. we had a cnn poll showing romney making gains. president still with a very narrow lead. consistent with that a new nbc "the wall street journal" poll out today, governor romney at 45%, predebate polls showing romney down seven, eight, even nine points. in all the battleground states and national polls romney's coming up. that's the momentum the republicans hope to keep in tonight's debate. >> john, is there any
is on the line tonight. governor romney built on it in the first debate. we know this, brand new poll in the state of nevada shows a two-point race. the president had been ahead a bit more there. keep going through the battlegrounds. look at colorado. a state on romney's agenda. he tends to have been doing better in the west. nevada had been doing closer. new quinnipiac poll, little boost from the debate there. let's come over to a huge state. romney probably needs to win florida. i can give you a scenario where he wins without florida, but it's a hard one. he had been down pretty big numbers. look at this. "the wall street journal" poll 48% to 47%, a statistical tie in the battleground state of florida. come up the coast, predebate there were polls in the state of virginia showing the president opening up a big lead outside the margin of error. new poll out today, romney 48%, president obama 47%. a statistical tie in battleground virginia. so there's colorado, nevada, florida, virginia. and one i'm just back wolf from the state of ohio. we had a cnn poll showing romney making gains.
performance or lack thereof. congressman ryan looking to boost the romney campaign's recent rise in the polls tonight. the debates are not usually game changers but analysts say this year could be an exception. carl cameron is fouling the presidential candidate. but, first, to ed henry on road with us here in danville. high stakes for the vice president after the president's performance, in doubt, right? >>reporter: that is right. because of the president's flop this puts more pressure tonight on vice president wide biden. the president, who is campaigning in miami, telephoned the vice president to wish him good luck. democrats are counting on him to shake up the momentum. that is going to an tough task tonight when you talk to political analysts. >> the vice president is going to come out and try to be defensive. the vice president, a strength of his, is his emotion and passion. that is both a positive and sometimes a weakness. you will see him come out and defend the president, not necessarily the debate performance from the other night but he will defend what the president has done. >>repo
in florida, romney up one in virginia. but a word of caution about single polls, "the new york times" and quinnipiac shows the president up by five in virginia, up by three in wisconsin, and romney up by a single point in colorado. there's much more game in this game, folks. let's get right to our panel. our man in kentucky, chris matthews, host of "hardball," and chuck todd, host of the daily rundown. chris, if i might start with you, i know you like to see a good scrap. and you were disappointed by the president's performance last week. so you tell us, how does the 69-year-old political veteran tame the 42-year-old young gun tonight? >> well, i think he has to remind the people in the middle who are going to make the decision that this is about two very different points of view about the future of the country. the great thing about running against paul ryan is he has real beliefs. he believes we should get rid of medicare as we know it and tell 82-year-old people to go out and buy health insurance if they can find somebody to sell it to them. go get on the bus and find somebody to
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back. new polling in two key swing states show romney is ahead. we will talk to two pollsters about what the latest numbers mean. and also a preview of next week's presidential debate after a miserable performance in the first. will president obama try to channel his inner biden? right back. [ male announcer ] how do you turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, then don't miss sleep train's wbest rest ever? you'll find sleep train's very best mattresses at the guaranteed lowest price. plus, pay no interest for 3 years on beautyrest black, stearns & foster, serta icomfort, even tempur-pedic. and rest even better with sleep train's risk-free 100-day money back guarantee. get your best rest ever from sleep train. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >> laura: in the factor original section. ed as member is known for left wing politics. is he still >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >> tonight, a major poll says mitt romney pulled into the lead in the race for the white house. after a strong debate performance last week, a week of high profile events, romney is beating president obama by four points in the poll. fox 5's tom fitzgerald talked to the people who put it all together and has details. >> for mitt romney, the post debate bounce is stretching into its second week. >> that was a good debate. i enjoyed that debate. >> while president obama is looking to get back on track and back into the lead. >> we cannot afford to be complacent and cannot afford to be cynical. >> just last month, the pew research poll had president obama leading mitt romney 51-43 percent. now, pew says romney is leading with 49% to obama's 45%. >> the projectry this race changed dramatically. >> romney's post debate gains are across the board. on likeability, romney trails the president by one point. women say they changed their view of romney. he is up 6 points while the president is down 9. romney gained among independents who changed their view of h
tonight. so much at stake, as new polls show mitt romney closing the gap in key states. the president gave diane sawyer his advice for joe biden. >> i think joe just needs to be joe. >>> and breaking overnight, a body found. a grim discovery in the haunting case of what happened to 10-year-old jessica ridgeway. police ruling out her parents as suspects. and now, a manhunt is on for a killer. >>> 30 days ago, i'll walk through these doors and i'm going home. i'm going home. >> homecoming. a huge milestone for robin on her road to recovery. finally leaving the hospital after weeks of grueling treatment. her doctors, friends and family cheer her on. and we have her message for everyone this morning. ♪ hey, hey oh, you feel it now ♪ ♪ amen, amen >> going home now. >> woo. >>> and how is that for a start to the morning? [ applause ] wow. amen. amen, robin. we are so happy for you. everyone on team robin, so thrilled that you are finally home, waking up this morning, after so many weeks in the hospital. we're going to talk to robin's doctor, in just a little bit. we see the fist-pumps up i
different. for instance, contrary to pundits and polls, the debate winner was not mitt romney according to millions of social media posts. an analysis shows after days of fact checking and counter arguments made by politico's you see this. president obama winning on substance. pew also found the same. also for you, head-to-head comparison, romney still leads by five percentage points in positive sentiment. sentiment being a measure of the words and phrases used. not the quantity of posts. now the only blip in that graph you see there was sunday when the big bird and elmo criticism from the obama campaign reached a crescendo. when it comes to the built-in base of followers and facebook friends and likes, the president has over 20 million followers and that's 16 times more than mitt romney. facebook likes, obama has 30 million and romney's a little closer, almost 9 million for him. and each of these facebook likes could be worth thousands of votes. research from u.c. san diego found onefies book message increased voter turnout by up to 340,000 votes in the 2010 election. that study looked
has it at four. clearly, still a lot of work for romney. let's keep going. virginia, we saw polls before the first presidential debate starting to stretch outside the margin. back to a dead heat. that's nbc news "wall street journal" mars poll and down to florida and here's another one. it started to open up a handful. there is no question, no question, the race changed after the the first presidential debate. romney got a bounce. but when you get a bounce, the challenge is to sustain it. that's the big challenge. can paul ryan keep the republican momentum? >> so, it's narrowed in these battleground state, but is there any indication that first debate created new battleground states? >> some evidence. i'm a bit skeptical. but one state where the numbers changed, mitt romney's birth state of michigan. his dad was governor there. our cnn poll had it close to ten points. looked like no way the republicans could put that into play. three points. so that's within the margin of error. that sheds michigan back into play. do the democrats now think we have to spend money here? we have to
cbs news poll shows mitt romney getting a post-debate bounce in two key states. >>> rescued from the wreckage. two people are pulled to safety in the aftermath of a deadly collapse at a parking garage. >>> diamond drama. post-season baseball heats up with two fantastic finishes. this is the "cbs morning news" for thursday, october 11, 2012. good morning, everybody, good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. debates between vice presidential candidates aren't supposed to matter but after president obama's poor debate performance last weeknight's faceoff between joe biden and paul ryan has turned into a high stakes affair. in colorado president obama held a slim lead in september now romney has a one-point edge. in wisconsin the president was leading by six points last month, he leads romney by just three points now. in virginia the president continues to hold on to a small lead. tara mergener is in washington following all of this. >> reporter: good morning. boy the pressure sure is on tonight particularly for joe biden who will be trying to gain ground following that first president
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